[SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop support

[Steven Gelsie]

I was wondering what sunray users are planning once Oracle stops support
on the sunrays. Do you plan to find a sunray replacement ?

Thanks
Steve

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[Walter Moore]

We've already replaced all our thin clients with Windows PCs. There was
never any serious discussion of thin clients alternatives.

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Steven Gelsie <***@jhuapl.edu>
wrote:

> I was wondering what sunray users are planning once Oracle stops support
> on the sunrays. Do you plan to find a sunray replacement ?
>
> Thanks
> Steve
>
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[Tobias Oetiker]

we have switched quite some time agonto cendio thinlinc. never looked back. performance is awesome.

Liebe GrÃŒsse

Tobias Oetiker

> On 01.10.2014, at 19:37, Walter Moore <***@eckerd.edu> wrote:
>
> We've already replaced all our thin clients with Windows PCs. There was never any serious discussion of thin clients alternatives.
>
>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Steven Gelsie <***@jhuapl.edu> wrote:
>> I was wondering what sunray users are planning once Oracle stops support on the sunrays. Do you plan to find a sunray replacement ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Steve
>>
>> --
>> Steven Gelsie Email: ***@jhuapl.edu
>> Johns Hopkins Univ./APL Phone: [phone] DC
>> 11100 Johns Hopkins Rd 443-778-4081 Baltimore
>> Laurel, MD 20723-6099 FAX: [phone]
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>>
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>
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[Leigh Porter]

We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have about 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.

--
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---- Steven Gelsie wrote ----

I was wondering what sunray users are planning once Oracle stops support
on the sunrays. Do you plan to find a sunray replacement ?

Thanks
Steve

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[Hana Skoumalova]

Leigh Porter wrote:
>
> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have about
> 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had
> sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.

But thinlinc is software, right? What sort of hardware do you use?

Hana

[Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55]

I thought it was only software also.....we have a large number of Sun Ray 3's that we will need to be replacing. I almost just need an appliance that will only run a browser and point the users to a SSGD server. Any thoughts?



Tom Clift

540-653-8023

DSN 249-8023

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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 2:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop support

Leigh Porter wrote:
>
> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have about
> 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had
> sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.

But thinlinc is software, right? What sort of hardware do you use?

Hana

[Leigh Porter]

Yup the T610 can run thinlinc on boot out of the box.

--
Leigh


---- Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55 wrote ----

I thought it was only software also.....we have a large number of Sun Ray 3's that we will need to be replacing. I almost just need an appliance that will only run a browser and point the users to a SSGD server. Any thoughts?



Tom Clift

540-653-8023

DSN 249-8023

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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 2:17 PM
To: SunRay-Users mailing list
Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop support

Leigh Porter wrote:
>
> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have about
> 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had
> sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.

But thinlinc is software, right? What sort of hardware do you use?

Hana

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[Darrel Hankerson]

"Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55" writes:

I thought it was only software also.....we have a large number of Sun
Ray 3's that we will need to be replacing. I almost just need an
appliance that will only run a browser and point the users to a SSGD
server. Any thoughts?

We used SGD. I think you will be much happier with thinlinc. We run
from Linux-based HP thin clients (e.g., t610).

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Darrel Hankerson

[Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55]

So your thin clients connect to a thinlinc server? I am researching thinlinc know as I don't know much about it.



Tom Clift

540-653-8023

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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 2:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop support

"Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55" writes:

I thought it was only software also.....we have a large number of Sun
Ray 3's that we will need to be replacing. I almost just need an
appliance that will only run a browser and point the users to a SSGD
server. Any thoughts?

We used SGD. I think you will be much happier with thinlinc. We run
from Linux-based HP thin clients (e.g., t610).

--
Darrel Hankerson

[Darrel Hankerson]

"Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55" writes:

So your thin clients connect to a thinlinc server? I am researching
thinlinc know as I don't know much about it.

Yes. The Linux-based HP t610 works well with ThinLinc, and we also
chose these because we connect to VMware View.

I had responded to a post about Sun SGD, which we used. There might be
a scenario where SGD wins, but the X server in thinlinc works with more
applications of interest to us (e.g., Maple) than that in SGD or the
Ray. There is a web (html5) interface to thinlinc, so thinlinc is
superficially similar to SGD. The thinlinc client has more features and
is required for demanding audio/video (e.g., "movie trailers").

--
Darrel Hankerson

[Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55]

I just posted a question but didn't see this until after I posted....I think this answered my question regarding displaying a Solaris desktop through thinlinc. Thanks for all the info.....great discussion.



Tom Clift

540-653-8023

DSN 249-8023

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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 3:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop support

"Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55" writes:

So your thin clients connect to a thinlinc server? I am researching
thinlinc know as I don't know much about it.

Yes. The Linux-based HP t610 works well with ThinLinc, and we also
chose these because we connect to VMware View.

I had responded to a post about Sun SGD, which we used. There might be
a scenario where SGD wins, but the X server in thinlinc works with more
applications of interest to us (e.g., Maple) than that in SGD or the
Ray. There is a web (html5) interface to thinlinc, so thinlinc is
superficially similar to SGD. The thinlinc client has more features and
is required for demanding audio/video (e.g., "movie trailers").

--
Darrel Hankerson

[Leigh Porter]

I use HP T610 and smart card keyboards.

--
Leigh


---- Hana Skoumalova wrote ----

Leigh Porter wrote:
>
> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have about
> 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had
> sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.

But thinlinc is software, right? What sort of hardware do you use?

Hana

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[Tobi Oetiker]

> On 01.10.2014, at 20:17, Hana Skoumalova <***@ff.cuni.cz> wrote:
>
> Leigh Porter wrote:
>>
>> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have about
>> 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had
>> sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.
>
> But thinlinc is software, right? What sort of hardware do you use?
>

we use hp t1600 but they are a bit low powered, so we now started using the gigabyte brix i3 (booting diskless linux)

hth

tobi oetiker
www.oetiker.ch


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[Tobi Oetiker]

> On 01.10.2014, at 20:50, Tobi Oetiker <***@oetiker.ch> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On 01.10.2014, at 20:17, Hana Skoumalova <***@ff.cuni.cz> wrote:
>>
>> Leigh Porter wrote:
>>>
>>> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have about
>>> 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had
>>> sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.
>>
>> But thinlinc is software, right? What sort of hardware do you use?
>
> we use hp t1600 but they are a bit low powered, so we now started using the gigabyte brix i3 (booting diskless linux)
>


that's t610
sorry
> hth
>
> tobi oetiker
> www.oetiker.ch
>
>
>> Hana
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[Googlemail: Dave Walker]

Hiya,

On 1 Oct 2014, at 18:58, Leigh Porter <***@ukbroadband.com> wrote:

> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have about 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.

I see ThinLinc is SPARC-only on Solaris - it might be very helpful if they were to do an x86 port - but given that the only other non-Sun Ray way to get a remote destop onto a Trusted Extensions box is to use VNC (see https://blogs.oracle.com/gfaden/entry/an_update_on_using_xvnc ), has anyone verified whether ThinLinc works on Sol 10 / SPARC Trusted Extensions at Trusted Path?

(I'd give it a go, but don't have a spare SPARCbox to hand...)

Cheers,

--
Dave

[Steven Gelsie]

I would not mind hearing more about thinlinc especially the hardware on
the client side. Does anybody know anything about praim.com and their
thin client offering ?

Thanks
Steve

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>
> Thanks
> Steve
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1. What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop support
(Steven Gelsie)
2. Re: What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop
support (Walter Moore)
3. Re: What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop
support (Tobias Oetiker)
4. Re: What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop
support (Leigh Porter)
5. Re: What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop
support (Hana Skoumalova)
6. Re: What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop
support (Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55)


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I was wondering what sunray users are planning once Oracle stops support
on the sunrays. Do you plan to find a sunray replacement ?

Thanks
Steve

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Johns Hopkins Univ./APL Phone: [phone] DC
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 13:37:28 -0400
From: Walter Moore <***@eckerd.edu>
To: SunRay-Users mailing list <sunray-***@filibeto.org>
Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once
Oracle stop support
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We've already replaced all our thin clients with Windows PCs. There was
never any serious discussion of thin clients alternatives.

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Steven Gelsie <***@jhuapl.edu>
wrote:

> I was wondering what sunray users are planning once Oracle stops support
> on the sunrays. Do you plan to find a sunray replacement ?
>
> Thanks
> Steve
>
> --
> Steven Gelsie Email: ***@jhuapl.edu
> Johns Hopkins Univ./APL Phone: [phone] DC
> 11100 Johns Hopkins Rd 443-778-4081 Baltimore
> Laurel, MD 20723-6099 FAX: [phone]
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we have switched quite some time agonto cendio thinlinc. never looked back. performance is awesome.

Liebe Gr?sse

Tobias Oetiker

> On 01.10.2014, at 19:37, Walter Moore <***@eckerd.edu> wrote:
>
> We've already replaced all our thin clients with Windows PCs. There was never any serious discussion of thin clients alternatives.
>
>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Steven Gelsie <***@jhuapl.edu> wrote:
>> I was wondering what sunray users are planning once Oracle stops support on the sunrays. Do you plan to find a sunray replacement ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Steve
>>
>> --
>> Steven Gelsie Email: ***@jhuapl.edu
>> Johns Hopkins Univ./APL Phone: [phone] DC
>> 11100 Johns Hopkins Rd 443-778-4081 Baltimore
>> Laurel, MD 20723-6099 FAX: [phone]
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>
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We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have about 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.

--
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---- Steven Gelsie wrote ----

I was wondering what sunray users are planning once Oracle stops support
on the sunrays. Do you plan to find a sunray replacement ?

Thanks
Steve

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From: Hana Skoumalova <***@ff.cuni.cz>
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Leigh Porter wrote:
>
> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have about
> 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had
> sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.

But thinlinc is software, right? What sort of hardware do you use?

Hana



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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 18:28:56 +0000
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Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once
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Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I thought it was only software also.....we have a large number of Sun Ray 3's that we will need to be replacing. I almost just need an appliance that will only run a browser and point the users to a SSGD server. Any thoughts?



Tom Clift

540-653-8023

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Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop support

Leigh Porter wrote:
>
> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have about
> 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had
> sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.

But thinlinc is software, right? What sort of hardware do you use?

Hana

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[Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55]

So is it possible to display back through thinlinc a Solaris JDS/GNOME desktop through something like application publishing? Something similiar to the way SSGD works.



Tom Clift

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IGEl thin clients + thinlinc are unbeatable. It's worth mentioning that IGEL UD 3 supports anything, including even exotic variety, such as SPICE. There's a life after SunRay


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1. What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop support
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2. Re: What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop
support (Walter Moore)
3. Re: What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop
support (Tobias Oetiker)
4. Re: What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop
support (Leigh Porter)
5. Re: What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop
support (Hana Skoumalova)
6. Re: What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 13:17:36 -0400
From: Steven Gelsie <***@jhuapl.edu>
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Subject: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once Oracle
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I was wondering what sunray users are planning once Oracle stops support
on the sunrays. Do you plan to find a sunray replacement ?

Thanks
Steve

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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 13:37:28 -0400
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We've already replaced all our thin clients with Windows PCs. There was
never any serious discussion of thin clients alternatives.

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Steven Gelsie <***@jhuapl.edu>
wrote:

> I was wondering what sunray users are planning once Oracle stops support
> on the sunrays. Do you plan to find a sunray replacement ?
>
> Thanks
> Steve
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we have switched quite some time agonto cendio thinlinc. never looked back. performance is awesome.

Liebe Gr?sse

Tobias Oetiker

> On 01.10.2014, at 19:37, Walter Moore <***@eckerd.edu> wrote:
>
> We've already replaced all our thin clients with Windows PCs. There was never any serious discussion of thin clients alternatives.
>
>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Steven Gelsie <***@jhuapl.edu> wrote:
>> I was wondering what sunray users are planning once Oracle stops support on the sunrays. Do you plan to find a sunray replacement ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Steve
>>
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We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have about 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.

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Leigh Porter wrote:
>
> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have about
> 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had
> sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.

But thinlinc is software, right? What sort of hardware do you use?

Hana



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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 18:28:56 +0000
From: "Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55" <***@navy.mil>
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Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once
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I thought it was only software also.....we have a large number of Sun Ray 3's that we will need to be replacing. I almost just need an appliance that will only run a browser and point the users to a SSGD server. Any thoughts?



Tom Clift

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Leigh Porter wrote:
>
> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have about
> 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had
> sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.

But thinlinc is software, right? What sort of hardware do you use?

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[Seth Galitzer]

We replaced our Sun Ray lab with WYSE (now Dell) terminals. We got the
D50D model with embedded Suse linux. They sell a management application,
but it's not necessary. All you need is a DHCP server and a web server.
Configuration and patching is done with plain text files served out from
the web server. I had considered thinlinc, but Wyse was less expensive
(no ongoing licensing cost unless you buy the optional software), uses a
much simpler system, and has far less overhead.

On the other hand, I have a mix of 2FS and 3plus DTUs (42 or so total)
that are looking for a new home (for a reasonable price). Otherwise,
they're getting recycled.

Loved my Sun Rays, but have moved on.

Seth

On 10/01/2014 12:17 PM, Steven Gelsie wrote:
> I was wondering what sunray users are planning once Oracle stops support
> on the sunrays. Do you plan to find a sunray replacement ?
>
> Thanks
> Steve
>

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[Nishimura, Scott L (ESS)]

Tobi,

Did you do much 3D work with the T610?


Scott

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> On 01.10.2014, at 20:50, Tobi Oetiker <***@oetiker.ch> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On 01.10.2014, at 20:17, Hana Skoumalova <***@ff.cuni.cz> wrote:
>>
>> Leigh Porter wrote:
>>>
>>> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have
>>> about
>>> 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had
>>> sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.
>>
>> But thinlinc is software, right? What sort of hardware do you use?
>
> we use hp t1600 but they are a bit low powered, so we now started
> using the gigabyte brix i3 (booting diskless linux)
>


that's t610
sorry
> hth
>
> tobi oetiker
> www.oetiker.ch
>
>
>> Hana
>>
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[Tobi Oetiker]

> On 01.10.2014, at 21:47, Nishimura, Scott L (ESS) <***@ngc.com> wrote:
>
> Tobi,
>
> Did you do much 3D work with the T610?
>
>


hi scott

i have not tried the virtual 3d stuff ... note that the t610 should be fine

cheers
tobi


> Scott
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:52 AM
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> Subject: EXT :Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop support
>
>
>
>> On 01.10.2014, at 20:50, Tobi Oetiker <***@oetiker.ch> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 01.10.2014, at 20:17, Hana Skoumalova <***@ff.cuni.cz> wrote:
>>>
>>> Leigh Porter wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have
>>>> about
>>>> 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had
>>>> sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.
>>>
>>> But thinlinc is software, right? What sort of hardware do you use?
>>
>> we use hp t1600 but they are a bit low powered, so we now started
>> using the gigabyte brix i3 (booting diskless linux)
>
>
> that's t610
> sorry
>> hth
>>
>> tobi oetiker
>> www.oetiker.ch
>>
>>
>>> Hana
>>>
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[Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55]

We are also looking for a 3D/zero client solution. Our data has to stay in the datacenter so a true PCoIP is necessary so we can process classifed data in unclassifed areas without the risk of the device retaining any data.



Tom Clift

540-653-8023

DSN 249-8023

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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 4:10 PM
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> On 01.10.2014, at 21:47, Nishimura, Scott L (ESS) <***@ngc.com> wrote:
>
> Tobi,
>
> Did you do much 3D work with the T610?
>
>


hi scott

i have not tried the virtual 3d stuff ... note that the t610 should be fine

cheers
tobi


> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sunray-users-***@filibeto.org [mailto:sunray-users-***@filibeto.org] On Behalf Of Tobi Oetiker
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:52 AM
> To: SunRay-Users mailing list
> Subject: EXT :Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop support
>
>
>
>> On 01.10.2014, at 20:50, Tobi Oetiker <***@oetiker.ch> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 01.10.2014, at 20:17, Hana Skoumalova <***@ff.cuni.cz> wrote:
>>>
>>> Leigh Porter wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have
>>>> about
>>>> 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had
>>>> sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.
>>>
>>> But thinlinc is software, right? What sort of hardware do you use?
>>
>> we use hp t1600 but they are a bit low powered, so we now started
>> using the gigabyte brix i3 (booting diskless linux)
>
>
> that's t610
> sorry
>> hth
>>
>> tobi oetiker
>> www.oetiker.ch<http://www.oetiker.ch/>
>>
>>
>>> Hana
>>>
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[Leigh Porter]

We achieve this with T610 and thinlinc. The sessions are encrypted, we have two factor authentication and all our data stays in the enclave.

Users hop from thinlinc to remote desktop sessions which achieves further logical separation between sensitive systems and the users.

Nothing is held locally, unless you count some LCD burn in!

--
Leigh


---- Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55 wrote ----

We are also looking for a 3D/zero client solution. Our data has to stay in the datacenter so a true PCoIP is necessary so we can process classifed data in unclassifed areas without the risk of the device retaining any data.



Tom Clift

540-653-8023

DSN 249-8023

________________________________
From: sunray-users-***@filibeto.org [sunray-users-***@filibeto.org] on behalf of Tobi Oetiker [***@oetiker.ch]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 4:10 PM
To: SunRay-Users mailing list
Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop support



> On 01.10.2014, at 21:47, Nishimura, Scott L (ESS) <***@ngc.com> wrote:
>
> Tobi,
>
> Did you do much 3D work with the T610?
>
>


hi scott

i have not tried the virtual 3d stuff ... note that the t610 should be fine

cheers
tobi


> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sunray-users-***@filibeto.org [mailto:sunray-users-***@filibeto.org] On Behalf Of Tobi Oetiker
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:52 AM
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> Subject: EXT :Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop support
>
>
>
>> On 01.10.2014, at 20:50, Tobi Oetiker <***@oetiker.ch> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 01.10.2014, at 20:17, Hana Skoumalova <***@ff.cuni.cz> wrote:
>>>
>>> Leigh Porter wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have
>>>> about
>>>> 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had
>>>> sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.
>>>
>>> But thinlinc is software, right? What sort of hardware do you use?
>>
>> we use hp t1600 but they are a bit low powered, so we now started
>> using the gigabyte brix i3 (booting diskless linux)
>
>
> that's t610
> sorry
>> hth
>>
>> tobi oetiker
>> www.oetiker.ch<http://www.oetiker.ch/>
>>
>>
>>> Hana
>>>
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[Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55]

Thanks. I thought the T610 had some sort of embedded OS which would be detected by a network scan and then would need patches/updates. I will research it a bit more to see if it will work for us. Thanks again for the input.



Tom Clift

540-653-8023

DSN 249-8023

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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 5:01 PM
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We achieve this with T610 and thinlinc. The sessions are encrypted, we have two factor authentication and all our data stays in the enclave.

Users hop from thinlinc to remote desktop sessions which achieves further logical separation between sensitive systems and the users.

Nothing is held locally, unless you count some LCD burn in!

--
Leigh


---- Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55 wrote ----

We are also looking for a 3D/zero client solution. Our data has to stay in the datacenter so a true PCoIP is necessary so we can process classifed data in unclassifed areas without the risk of the device retaining any data.



Tom Clift

540-653-8023

DSN 249-8023

________________________________
From: sunray-users-***@filibeto.org [sunray-users-***@filibeto.org] on behalf of Tobi Oetiker [***@oetiker.ch]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 4:10 PM
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> On 01.10.2014, at 21:47, Nishimura, Scott L (ESS) <***@ngc.com> wrote:
>
> Tobi,
>
> Did you do much 3D work with the T610?
>
>


hi scott

i have not tried the virtual 3d stuff ... note that the t610 should be fine

cheers
tobi


> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sunray-users-***@filibeto.org [mailto:sunray-users-***@filibeto.org] On Behalf Of Tobi Oetiker
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:52 AM
> To: SunRay-Users mailing list
> Subject: EXT :Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop support
>
>
>
>> On 01.10.2014, at 20:50, Tobi Oetiker <***@oetiker.ch> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 01.10.2014, at 20:17, Hana Skoumalova <***@ff.cuni.cz> wrote:
>>>
>>> Leigh Porter wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have
>>>> about
>>>> 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had
>>>> sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.
>>>
>>> But thinlinc is software, right? What sort of hardware do you use?
>>
>> we use hp t1600 but they are a bit low powered, so we now started
>> using the gigabyte brix i3 (booting diskless linux)
>
>
> that's t610
> sorry
>> hth
>>
>> tobi oetiker
>> www.oetiker.ch<http://www.oetiker.ch/>
>>
>>
>>> Hana
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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[Dave Michaels]

The t610s we have are pretty snazzy out of the box, but they seem to come
with two different flavors of 'firmware':

ThinPro, and SafeZero or something like that. The latter one seems to have
very few connections out of the box. ThinPro has more connection options
(including XDMCP, which isn't secure, but is easy to set up).

I don't remember seeing "thinlinc" - what OS & version are you running on
those t610s?




On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Leigh Porter <***@ukbroadband.com>
wrote:

> We achieve this with T610 and thinlinc. The sessions are encrypted, we
> have two factor authentication and all our data stays in the enclave.
>
> Users hop from thinlinc to remote desktop sessions which achieves further
> logical separation between sensitive systems and the users.
>
> Nothing is held locally, unless you count some LCD burn in!
>
> --
> Leigh
>
>
> ---- Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55 wrote ----
>
> We are also looking for a 3D/zero client solution. Our data has to stay
> in the datacenter so a true PCoIP is necessary so we can process classifed
> data in unclassifed areas without the risk of the device retaining any data.
>
>
>
> Tom Clift
>
> 540-653-8023
>
> DSN 249-8023
>
> ________________________________
> From: sunray-users-***@filibeto.org [sunray-users-***@filibeto.org]
> on behalf of Tobi Oetiker [***@oetiker.ch]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 4:10 PM
> To: SunRay-Users mailing list
> Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once Oracle
> stop support
>
>
>
> > On 01.10.2014, at 21:47, Nishimura, Scott L (ESS) <
> ***@ngc.com> wrote:
> >
> > Tobi,
> >
> > Did you do much 3D work with the T610?
> >
> >
>
>
> hi scott
>
> i have not tried the virtual 3d stuff ... note that the t610 should be fine
>
> cheers
> tobi
>
>
> > Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sunray-users-***@filibeto.org [
> mailto:sunray-users-***@filibeto.org
> <sunray-users-***@filibeto.org>] On Behalf Of Tobi Oetiker
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:52 AM
> > To: SunRay-Users mailing list
> > Subject: EXT :Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once
> Oracle stop support
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 01.10.2014, at 20:50, Tobi Oetiker <***@oetiker.ch> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 01.10.2014, at 20:17, Hana Skoumalova <***@ff.cuni.cz>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Leigh Porter wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have
> >>>> about
> >>>> 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had
> >>>> sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.
> >>>
> >>> But thinlinc is software, right? What sort of hardware do you use?
> >>
> >> we use hp t1600 but they are a bit low powered, so we now started
> >> using the gigabyte brix i3 (booting diskless linux)
> >
> >
> > that's t610
> > sorry
> >> hth
> >>
> >> tobi oetiker
> >> www.oetiker.ch<http://www.oetiker.ch/>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hana
> >>>
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[Tobias Oetiker]

Today Dave Michaels wrote:

> The t610s we have are pretty snazzy out of the box, but they seem to come
> with two different flavors of 'firmware':
>
> ThinPro, and SafeZero or something like that. The latter one seems to have
> very few connections out of the box. ThinPro has more connection options
> (including XDMCP, which isn't secure, but is easy to set up).
>
> I don't remember seeing "thinlinc" - what OS & version are you running on
> those t610s?
>

Hi Dave,

you need the ThinPro OS on the t610 AND then you can install the
thinlinc client package into the ThinPro Linux

very simple
cheers
tobi

>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Leigh Porter <***@ukbroadband.com>
> wrote:
>
> > We achieve this with T610 and thinlinc. The sessions are encrypted, we
> > have two factor authentication and all our data stays in the enclave.
> >
> > Users hop from thinlinc to remote desktop sessions which achieves further
> > logical separation between sensitive systems and the users.
> >
> > Nothing is held locally, unless you count some LCD burn in!
> >
> > --
> > Leigh
> >
> >
> > ---- Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55 wrote ----
> >
> > We are also looking for a 3D/zero client solution. Our data has to stay
> > in the datacenter so a true PCoIP is necessary so we can process classifed
> > data in unclassifed areas without the risk of the device retaining any data.
> >
> >
> >
> > Tom Clift
> >
> > 540-653-8023
> >
> > DSN 249-8023
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: sunray-users-***@filibeto.org [sunray-users-***@filibeto.org]
> > on behalf of Tobi Oetiker [***@oetiker.ch]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 4:10 PM
> > To: SunRay-Users mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once Oracle
> > stop support
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 01.10.2014, at 21:47, Nishimura, Scott L (ESS) <
> > ***@ngc.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Tobi,
> > >
> > > Did you do much 3D work with the T610?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > hi scott
> >
> > i have not tried the virtual 3d stuff ... note that the t610 should be fine
> >
> > cheers
> > tobi
> >
> >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: sunray-users-***@filibeto.org [
> > mailto:sunray-users-***@filibeto.org
> > <sunray-users-***@filibeto.org>] On Behalf Of Tobi Oetiker
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:52 AM
> > > To: SunRay-Users mailing list
> > > Subject: EXT :Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once
> > Oracle stop support
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On 01.10.2014, at 20:50, Tobi Oetiker <***@oetiker.ch> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On 01.10.2014, at 20:17, Hana Skoumalova <***@ff.cuni.cz>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Leigh Porter wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have
> > >>>> about
> > >>>> 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had
> > >>>> sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.
> > >>>
> > >>> But thinlinc is software, right? What sort of hardware do you use?
> > >>
> > >> we use hp t1600 but they are a bit low powered, so we now started
> > >> using the gigabyte brix i3 (booting diskless linux)
> > >
> > >
> > > that's t610
> > > sorry
> > >> hth
> > >>
> > >> tobi oetiker
> > >> www.oetiker.ch<http://www.oetiker.ch/>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Hana
> > >>>
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[Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55]

Our security requirements specify that the OS have a write lock option if the client is not a true zero client. Does anyone know if the OS (ThinPro) for the HP T610 considered "write locked" or at least have a similiar option? The idea being that no one would be able to access the OS and store data.



Tom Clift

540-653-8023

DSN 249-8023

________________________________
From: sunray-users-***@filibeto.org [sunray-users-***@filibeto.org] on behalf of Tobias Oetiker [***@oetiker.ch]
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 4:21 AM
To: SunRay-Users mailing list
Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop support

Today Dave Michaels wrote:

> The t610s we have are pretty snazzy out of the box, but they seem to come
> with two different flavors of 'firmware':
>
> ThinPro, and SafeZero or something like that. The latter one seems to have
> very few connections out of the box. ThinPro has more connection options
> (including XDMCP, which isn't secure, but is easy to set up).
>
> I don't remember seeing "thinlinc" - what OS & version are you running on
> those t610s?
>

Hi Dave,

you need the ThinPro OS on the t610 AND then you can install the
thinlinc client package into the ThinPro Linux

very simple
cheers
tobi

>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Leigh Porter <***@ukbroadband.com>
> wrote:
>
> > We achieve this with T610 and thinlinc. The sessions are encrypted, we
> > have two factor authentication and all our data stays in the enclave.
> >
> > Users hop from thinlinc to remote desktop sessions which achieves further
> > logical separation between sensitive systems and the users.
> >
> > Nothing is held locally, unless you count some LCD burn in!
> >
> > --
> > Leigh
> >
> >
> > ---- Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55 wrote ----
> >
> > We are also looking for a 3D/zero client solution. Our data has to stay
> > in the datacenter so a true PCoIP is necessary so we can process classifed
> > data in unclassifed areas without the risk of the device retaining any data.
> >
> >
> >
> > Tom Clift
> >
> > 540-653-8023
> >
> > DSN 249-8023
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: sunray-users-***@filibeto.org [sunray-users-***@filibeto.org]
> > on behalf of Tobi Oetiker [***@oetiker.ch]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 4:10 PM
> > To: SunRay-Users mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once Oracle
> > stop support
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 01.10.2014, at 21:47, Nishimura, Scott L (ESS) <
> > ***@ngc.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Tobi,
> > >
> > > Did you do much 3D work with the T610?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > hi scott
> >
> > i have not tried the virtual 3d stuff ... note that the t610 should be fine
> >
> > cheers
> > tobi
> >
> >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: sunray-users-***@filibeto.org [
> > mailto:sunray-users-***@filibeto.org
> > <sunray-users-***@filibeto.org>] On Behalf Of Tobi Oetiker
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:52 AM
> > > To: SunRay-Users mailing list
> > > Subject: EXT :Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once
> > Oracle stop support
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On 01.10.2014, at 20:50, Tobi Oetiker <***@oetiker.ch> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On 01.10.2014, at 20:17, Hana Skoumalova <***@ff.cuni.cz>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Leigh Porter wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have
> > >>>> about
> > >>>> 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had
> > >>>> sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.
> > >>>
> > >>> But thinlinc is software, right? What sort of hardware do you use?
> > >>
> > >> we use hp t1600 but they are a bit low powered, so we now started
> > >> using the gigabyte brix i3 (booting diskless linux)
> > >
> > >
> > > that's t610
> > > sorry
> > >> hth
> > >>
> > >> tobi oetiker
> > >> www.oetiker.ch<http://www.oetiker.ch/>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Hana
> > >>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> SunRay-Users mailing list
> > >>> SunRay-***@filibeto.org
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[Peter Astrand]

On Fri, 10 Oct 2014, Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55 wrote:

> Our security requirements specify that the OS have a write lock option
> if the client is not a true zero client. Does anyone know if the OS
> (ThinPro) for the HP T610 considered "write locked" or at least have a
> similiar option? The idea being that no one would be able to access the
> OS and store data.

Hi. I'm not sure there is such a thing as a "true zero client", or how it
would be defined. The Sun Ray DTUs are indeed very "thin", but this also
means that they are less flexible. For example, they are locked to one
single protocol and vendor.

Most thin terminals nowadays are running Linux, thus in principle a "full"
operating system. Various lock down approaches are being used. For
example, the HP ThinPro normally runs with a file system which is write
protected except for the path /writable. With the command "fsunlock", it
is possible to write enable the rest of the file system. This allows for
example installation of our ThinLinc Client package. Afterwards, you run
"fslock". Terminals from IGEL, Dell/Wyse, Fujitsu etc uses a similar
approach.

If you are considered about the risk of storing local data, perhaps one
solution would be to disable client file access? With the ThinLinc Client,
the "Local Drive Redirection" subsystem is a separate process/binary, and
if you simply remove that file, this feature will be disabled.


Br,
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> ________________________________
> From: sunray-users-***@filibeto.org [sunray-users-***@filibeto.org] on behalf of Tobias Oetiker [***@oetiker.ch]
> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 4:21 AM
> To: SunRay-Users mailing list
> Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop support
>
> Today Dave Michaels wrote:
>
>> The t610s we have are pretty snazzy out of the box, but they seem to come
>> with two different flavors of 'firmware':
>>
>> ThinPro, and SafeZero or something like that. The latter one seems to have
>> very few connections out of the box. ThinPro has more connection options
>> (including XDMCP, which isn't secure, but is easy to set up).
>>
>> I don't remember seeing "thinlinc" - what OS & version are you running on
>> those t610s?
>>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> you need the ThinPro OS on the t610 AND then you can install the
> thinlinc client package into the ThinPro Linux
>
> very simple
> cheers
> tobi
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Leigh Porter <***@ukbroadband.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We achieve this with T610 and thinlinc. The sessions are encrypted, we
>>> have two factor authentication and all our data stays in the enclave.
>>>
>>> Users hop from thinlinc to remote desktop sessions which achieves further
>>> logical separation between sensitive systems and the users.
>>>
>>> Nothing is held locally, unless you count some LCD burn in!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Leigh
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55 wrote ----
>>>
>>> We are also looking for a 3D/zero client solution. Our data has to stay
>>> in the datacenter so a true PCoIP is necessary so we can process classifed
>>> data in unclassifed areas without the risk of the device retaining any data.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom Clift
>>>
>>> 540-653-8023
>>>
>>> DSN 249-8023
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: sunray-users-***@filibeto.org [sunray-users-***@filibeto.org]
>>> on behalf of Tobi Oetiker [***@oetiker.ch]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 4:10 PM
>>> To: SunRay-Users mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once Oracle
>>> stop support
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 01.10.2014, at 21:47, Nishimura, Scott L (ESS) <
>>> ***@ngc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Tobi,
>>>>
>>>> Did you do much 3D work with the T610?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> hi scott
>>>
>>> i have not tried the virtual 3d stuff ... note that the t610 should be fine
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> tobi
>>>
>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: sunray-users-***@filibeto.org [
>>> mailto:sunray-users-***@filibeto.org
>>> <sunray-users-***@filibeto.org>] On Behalf Of Tobi Oetiker
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:52 AM
>>>> To: SunRay-Users mailing list
>>>> Subject: EXT :Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once
>>> Oracle stop support
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 01.10.2014, at 20:50, Tobi Oetiker <***@oetiker.ch> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01.10.2014, at 20:17, Hana Skoumalova <***@ff.cuni.cz>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leigh Porter wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We had
>>>>>>> sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But thinlinc is software, right? What sort of hardware do you use?
>>>>>
>>>>> we use hp t1600 but they are a bit low powered, so we now started
>>>>> using the gigabyte brix i3 (booting diskless linux)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> that's t610
>>>> sorry
>>>>> hth
>>>>>
>>>>> tobi oetiker
>>>>> www.oetiker.ch<http://www.oetiker.ch/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hana
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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[Leigh Porter]

The T610 do support a write lock, but they are not quite as locked up as the SunRay. I'm not sure what would be quite as close to a completely locked down platform as the SunRay.

--
Leigh



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On Fri, 10 Oct 2014, Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55 wrote:

> Our security requirements specify that the OS have a write lock option
> if the client is not a true zero client. Does anyone know if the OS
> (ThinPro) for the HP T610 considered "write locked" or at least have a
> similiar option? The idea being that no one would be able to access
> the OS and store data.

Hi. I'm not sure there is such a thing as a "true zero client", or how it would be defined. The Sun Ray DTUs are indeed very "thin", but this also means that they are less flexible. For example, they are locked to one single protocol and vendor.

Most thin terminals nowadays are running Linux, thus in principle a "full"
operating system. Various lock down approaches are being used. For example, the HP ThinPro normally runs with a file system which is write protected except for the path /writable. With the command "fsunlock", it is possible to write enable the rest of the file system. This allows for example installation of our ThinLinc Client package. Afterwards, you run "fslock". Terminals from IGEL, Dell/Wyse, Fujitsu etc uses a similar approach.

If you are considered about the risk of storing local data, perhaps one solution would be to disable client file access? With the ThinLinc Client, the "Local Drive Redirection" subsystem is a separate process/binary, and if you simply remove that file, this feature will be disabled.


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> Oracle stop support
>
> Today Dave Michaels wrote:
>
>> The t610s we have are pretty snazzy out of the box, but they seem to
>> come with two different flavors of 'firmware':
>>
>> ThinPro, and SafeZero or something like that. The latter one seems
>> to have very few connections out of the box. ThinPro has more
>> connection options (including XDMCP, which isn't secure, but is easy to set up).
>>
>> I don't remember seeing "thinlinc" - what OS & version are you
>> running on those t610s?
>>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> you need the ThinPro OS on the t610 AND then you can install the
> thinlinc client package into the ThinPro Linux
>
> very simple
> cheers
> tobi
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Leigh Porter
>> <***@ukbroadband.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We achieve this with T610 and thinlinc. The sessions are encrypted,
>>> we have two factor authentication and all our data stays in the enclave.
>>>
>>> Users hop from thinlinc to remote desktop sessions which achieves
>>> further logical separation between sensitive systems and the users.
>>>
>>> Nothing is held locally, unless you count some LCD burn in!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Leigh
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- Clift, Tom CIV NSWCDD, K55 wrote ----
>>>
>>> We are also looking for a 3D/zero client solution. Our data has to
>>> stay in the datacenter so a true PCoIP is necessary so we can
>>> process classifed data in unclassifed areas without the risk of the device retaining any data.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom Clift
>>>
>>> 540-653-8023
>>>
>>> DSN 249-8023
>>>
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>>> Oracle stop support
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 01.10.2014, at 21:47, Nishimura, Scott L (ESS) <
>>> ***@ngc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Tobi,
>>>>
>>>> Did you do much 3D work with the T610?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> hi scott
>>>
>>> i have not tried the virtual 3d stuff ... note that the t610 should
>>> be fine
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> tobi
>>>
>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
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>>>> once
>>> Oracle stop support
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 01.10.2014, at 20:50, Tobi Oetiker <***@oetiker.ch> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01.10.2014, at 20:17, Hana Skoumalova
>>>>>> <***@ff.cuni.cz>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leigh Porter wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We moved to thinlinc (Google it..) and are very pleased. I have
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> 120 terminals now and I don't think we have had any issues. We
>>>>>>> had sunray and thinlinc on the same servers so migration was super easy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But thinlinc is software, right? What sort of hardware do you use?
>>>>>
>>>>> we use hp t1600 but they are a bit low powered, so we now started
>>>>> using the gigabyte brix i3 (booting diskless linux)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> that's t610
>>>> sorry
>>>>> hth
>>>>>
>>>>> tobi oetiker
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>>>>>> Hana
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[John Stewart]

On 10/01/2014 01:17 PM, Steven Gelsie wrote:
> I was wondering what sunray users are planning once Oracle stops support
> on the sunrays. Do you plan to find a sunray replacement ?
Both of our teaching labs which are primarily used for our statistics
courses were equipped with Sun Ray devices. It had seemed quite
promising when we converted the first lab to Sun Ray devices six years.
However things changed...

* almost all our courses now use Windows based applications so there
wasn't much point in first dropping them into a Linux Gnome session.
* SAS licensing was expensive as we needed our own Windows Terminal
Server type license instead of being able to use individual pc
licensing which the university was already paying for.
* USB flash drive performance was poor and it was hard to get the
system to recognize large capacity flash drives (who is carrying
around a 1GB flash drive these days?).
* Oracle wanted us to pay a yearly software maintenance fee for each
Sun Ray to be able to receive updates to the Sun Ray software.
* Oracle announced there would be no further development of the Sun
Ray technology.

Last year we reverted to using pc's in one of the labs. As we had no
budget we had to use machines that our central computing department had
taken out of service. The difficulty of managing a pc lab had been one
of the reasons for the switch to Sun Ray devices but this time we opted
to use a slightly modified student image provided by our central
computing department. SCCM is used to image the machines and push out
changes so the management tasks are largely taken care of for us.

This September we've gone with a Virtual Desktop Interface (VDI)
solution in our remaining Sun Ray lab. We are using Dell Wyse P25 Zero
Clients so we have many of the advantages of the Sun Ray's -- low power
consumption, reliability and no noise. USB flash drive performance is
good and logins are quick. I haven't seen any operational problems at
all and the folks at the server end tell us that they are not seeing any
noticeable increase in the load on their servers when a class is
running. Unless something totally unexpected happens in the next few
weeks, I expect we'll convert the pc lab over to Zero Clients in December.

Our Physics department plan to continue operating a Sun Ray teaching
lab. That's fine with us as it gives us a place for instructors who
want a Linux based environment for their course.

> --
> John Stewart -- Faculty of Science, Carleton University
> Internet:***@carleton.ca 613-520-2600x3707
> "Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from bad judgement."

[Randy]

I have a question of the Dell Wyse P25 Zero Clients can they connect to an RDS server farm. I have about 130 sunrays a mix of sunray 2 / 3 and 3i's in a RDS server farm..

And i see it looks like everyong leaving sunray cause of cut off of support but that dosn't mean you cant still use them..

So what if they cut off support use them till ya can't use them anymore is the way i look at it..

But was checking out to see if those wyse terminals will work in an RDS server Farm..

Thanks

Randy Martin
----- Original Message -----
From: John Stewart
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once Oracle stop support


On 10/01/2014 01:17 PM, Steven Gelsie wrote:

I was wondering what sunray users are planning once Oracle stops support
on the sunrays. Do you plan to find a sunray replacement ?Both of our teaching labs which are primarily used for our statistics courses were equipped with Sun Ray devices. It had seemed quite promising when we converted the first lab to Sun Ray devices six years. However things changed...


a.. almost all our courses now use Windows based applications so there wasn't much point in first dropping them into a Linux Gnome session.

b.. SAS licensing was expensive as we needed our own Windows Terminal Server type license instead of being able to use individual pc licensing which the university was already paying for.
c.. USB flash drive performance was poor and it was hard to get the system to recognize large capacity flash drives (who is carrying around a 1GB flash drive these days?).
d.. Oracle wanted us to pay a yearly software maintenance fee for each Sun Ray to be able to receive updates to the Sun Ray software.

e.. Oracle announced there would be no further development of the Sun Ray technology.
Last year we reverted to using pc's in one of the labs. As we had no budget we had to use machines that our central computing department had taken out of service. The difficulty of managing a pc lab had been one of the reasons for the switch to Sun Ray devices but this time we opted to use a slightly modified student image provided by our central computing department. SCCM is used to image the machines and push out changes so the management tasks are largely taken care of for us.


This September we've gone with a Virtual Desktop Interface (VDI) solution in our remaining Sun Ray lab. We are using Dell Wyse P25 Zero Clients so we have many of the advantages of the Sun Ray's -- low power consumption, reliability and no noise. USB flash drive performance is good and logins are quick. I haven't seen any operational problems at all and the folks at the server end tell us that they are not seeing any noticeable increase in the load on their servers when a class is running. Unless something totally unexpected happens in the next few weeks, I expect we'll convert the pc lab over to Zero Clients in December.


Our Physics department plan to continue operating a Sun Ray teaching lab. That's fine with us as it gives us a place for instructors who want a Linux based environment for their course.


--
John Stewart -- Faculty of Science, Carleton University
Internet: ***@carleton.ca 613-520-2600x3707
"Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from bad judgement."

[Dave Michaels]

Cutting off support doesn't make them non-functional. But does make them
more vulnerable over time, and less likely to work with newer operating
systems as they roll out. Also, they can't be re-sold, or used in new
solutions for customers. It would be like if you went down to the computer
store to get a new desktop, and they gave you an old PS/2 mouse and
keyboard out of a dusty bin somewhere -- yeah, it'll probably work, but you
kinda want new stuff when you buy new stuff. ;)



On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Randy <***@charter.net> wrote:

> I have a question of the Dell Wyse P25 Zero Clients can they connect to
> an RDS server farm. I have about 130 sunrays a mix of sunray 2 / 3 and 3i's in
> a RDS server farm..
>
> And i see it looks like everyong leaving sunray cause of cut off of
> support but that dosn't mean you cant still use them..
>
> So what if they cut off support use them till ya can't use them anymore is
> the way i look at it..
>
> But was checking out to see if those wyse terminals will work in an RDS
> server Farm..
>
> Thanks
>
> Randy Martin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* John Stewart <***@carleton.ca>
> *To:* SunRay-Users mailing list <sunray-***@filibeto.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 01, 2014 3:50 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [SunRay-Users] What are sunray users going to do once
> Oracle stop support
>
> On 10/01/2014 01:17 PM, Steven Gelsie wrote:
>
> I was wondering what sunray users are planning once Oracle stops support
> on the sunrays. Do you plan to find a sunray replacement ?
>
> Both of our teaching labs which are primarily used for our statistics
> courses were equipped with Sun Ray devices. It had seemed quite promising
> when we converted the first lab to Sun Ray devices six years. However
> things changed...
>
>
> - almost all our courses now use Windows based applications so there
> wasn't much point in first dropping them into a Linux Gnome session.
> - SAS licensing was expensive as we needed our own Windows Terminal
> Server type license instead of being able to use individual pc licensing
> which the university was already paying for.
> - USB flash drive performance was poor and it was hard to get the
> system to recognize large capacity flash drives (who is carrying around a
> 1GB flash drive these days?).
> - Oracle wanted us to pay a yearly software maintenance fee for each
> Sun Ray to be able to receive updates to the Sun Ray software.
> - Oracle announced there would be no further development of the Sun
> Ray technology.
>
> Last year we reverted to using pc's in one of the labs. As we had no
> budget we had to use machines that our central computing department had
> taken out of service. The difficulty of managing a pc lab had been one of
> the reasons for the switch to Sun Ray devices but this time we opted to use
> a slightly modified student image provided by our central computing
> department. SCCM is used to image the machines and push out changes so the
> management tasks are largely taken care of for us.
>
> This September we've gone with a Virtual Desktop Interface (VDI) solution
> in our remaining Sun Ray lab. We are using Dell Wyse P25 Zero Clients so
> we have many of the advantages of the Sun Ray's -- low power consumption,
> reliability and no noise. USB flash drive performance is good and logins
> are quick. I haven't seen any operational problems at all and the folks at
> the server end tell us that they are not seeing any noticeable increase in
> the load on their servers when a class is running. Unless something
> totally unexpected happens in the next few weeks, I expect we'll convert
> the pc lab over to Zero Clients in December.
>
> Our Physics department plan to continue operating a Sun Ray teaching lab.
> That's fine with us as it gives us a place for instructors who want a Linux
> based environment for their course.
>
> --
> John Stewart -- Faculty of Science, Carleton University
> Internet: ***@carleton.ca 613-520-2600x3707
> "Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from bad judgement."
>
>
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[John Stewart]

On 10/01/2014 11:58 PM, Randy wrote:
> I have a question of the Dell Wyse P25 Zero Clients can they connect
> to an RDS server farm. I have about 130 sunrays a mix of sunray 2 / 3
> and 3i's in a RDS server farm..
No, I don't believe they support RDS type connections. They are
strictly a PCoIP type device. There may be other Dell Wyse devices that
would do that though.
> And i see it looks like everyong leaving sunray cause of cut off of
> support but that dosn't mean you cant still use them..
I would expect kiosk deployments to stick around longer as there is
little reason for these to move to newer technologies. So the Sun Rays
in use in our library (my first deployment of Sun Rays during my brief
tenure as an employee in that department) are likely to be kept running
for a good many more years. We will also keep using Sun Rays to drive
TV displays in the Faculty of Science.

[James Dickens]

wait for the Cheap Sunray 3's to show up on ebay.... and continue to use
them at home, its nice having acess to my desktop on every floor of my
house, and easy to setup guest access giving them a windows desktop to use
and I just blow it away when they are done... poor mans VDI.

James


On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Steven Gelsie <***@jhuapl.edu>
wrote:

> I was wondering what sunray users are planning once Oracle stops support
> on the sunrays. Do you plan to find a sunray replacement ?
>
> Thanks
> Steve
>
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